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Through its elected Committee, the Club organises meetings for lunch on the 3rd Wednesday of each month (those held in May and December are Ladies Lunches where we entertain our partners as well as other guests)

 

These lunch meetings are held at the Glenmore House conveniently situated at No 6 The Crescent, Surbiton, Surrey, KT6 4BN at 12 noon for 1.00pm. and are followed by an after lunch speaker.

 

In addition, the Committee organise about six visits/outings a year to places of interest including informal gatherings of members and their partners for pub lunches at local inns and hostelries. In both Spring and Autumn, short Club holidays are organised in a wide variety of locations, both in the UK and Europe, at a reasonable and competitive cost for dinner, bed and breakfast.

Monthly Lunches  --- Ladies Lunch -We hold two every year

The Glenmore House serve an excellent 3 course lunch; alternatives are available to suit any dietary requirements. Members may invite guests.


Glenmore House

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Programme 2012

Notes on the Lunch Meeting at Glenmore House

On Wednesday 18th January2012

Alan Nichols on his experiences as a Train Driver

The Chairman then welcomed our Speaker Alan Nichols who was to address us on his experiences as a train driver after retiring from his career as a bank manager. Alan Nichols started to unfold the outlines of his unusual dual career. His addiction to trains started as a small boy when his family lived at Petts Wood and he was taken to Folkestone in 1949 at the age of 21/2. But driving trains was not to be his first career. He joined Westminster Bank in 1965 and was to remain with them, having attained managerial status dealing with top clients for 33 years. He was able to take early retirement at 55 and joined South West Trains training School in 2002.


 

There followed two intensive years of training as with the whole of Alan’s talk this was packed with detail, starting with Basic Railway he went through signal recognition, warning signs and the use of different types of telephones. The there was the principles of Route Learning, the understanding of rules and the significance of publications and notices. After this came the way in which a train behaves: the principles of traction. Then was the practical handling of a train: demonstrations by an instructor. In all, the minimum number of hours with a driving instructor was 225 covering both teaching and learner practice.


 

This culminated in three days of assessment of the pupil covering driving, rules and traction. From then on it was route learning over 600 track miles, yards, sidings, 500 signals and 180 platforms. Each year there are 16,000 station stops and 48,000 signals to be obeyed. On each route the pupil undergoes a written and driven assessment on each route tackled. All this amounted to an extremely impressive and reassuring account in detail of what goes into the training of a person who every day is responsible for the lives of hundreds of his fellow human beings.

This may sound solemn but Alan’s talks was enlivened by numerous anecdotes. These ranged from the humorous (e.g. Cheeky girls and Fake Policemen) to the grim (Clapham suicide). Your scribe liked Maggie Thatcher’s insistence on having Boeuf Wellington served to French VIPS on trains travelling to political meetings in London via Waterloo.

Alan is still a full time train driver and enjoys every working day. But he is also an engaged member of the railway staff, known at H Q, who does not refrain from expressing his views on controversial issues which he expresses to management when appropriate.

After his talk Alan answered numerous questions from our railway buffs, even including one on driverless trains. After this the Chairman proposed a vote of thanks to and the formal session ended at 3.10 with the Probus Toast.

Brian Jackson


Notes on the Lunch Meeting at Glenmore on Wednesday February 15th 2012

John Edney on the Cinque Ports

To come awaiting text promised by the speaker

The Chairman welcomed our Luncheon Speaker, John Edney who was to address us on the subject of the Cinque Ports, and the Loyal Toast the Chairman asked John Edney who spoke on his subject of the Cinque Ports [summary to follow.] This was followed by questions. The Chairman then thanked John for his excellent talk and the meeting closed at 3.10 p.m. with the Probus Toast.

The Cinque Ports - a brief History attached whilst awaiting the promised text


 

Originally, the Cinque Ports (pronounced 'Sink' Ports) were a confederation of five harbours, Sandwich, Romney, Dover, Hythe, and Hastings plus the two Ancient Towns of Rye & Winchelsea. These were grouped together, for defence purposes, by Edward the Confessor. They supplied the Crown with ships and men.

In early times, the fishing fleets, maintained by the South Eastern coastal towns were frequently pressed into service to convey people, and armies, to and from the Continent, as well as to fight battles at sea. They formed the first Navy, and, in return for the use of their vessels, the ports received many privileges from the Crown.

Gradually the ports grouped together for mutual support and a confederation of the five main ones, Sandwich, Dover, Hythe, Romney, and Hastings, was formed and became known as the Cinque Ports. This grouping probably began before the Norman conquest, the Domesday Book records the obligation of the ports to supply ships and men to the King once a year. This ship service continued for over three hundred years until larger ships were needed by the Navy
 

The privileges obtained by the Cinque Ports were set down in a series of Royal Charters—the last one granted by Charles II in 1668, can be seen in the Guildhall, Sandwich. These privileges included freedom from tolls and customs duties, freedom to trade and to hold their own judicial courts. The Cinque Ports were also entitled to send Barons, to carry the Canopy over the Sovereign at his or her coronation. A section of the canopy, in cloth of gold, used at the coronation of George 3rd may be seen in Guildhall.

Between the eleventh and thirteenth centuries, Sandwich reached the top of its importance as the main port in England.

But, the Great Storm of 1287 was the beginning of the end for many of the ports, it silted up harbours, blocked rivers, and submerged towns. Despite this, the Cinque Ports still retained their status and privileges, these towns are still known as the Cinque Ports, but the coastline has changed considerably over the centuries - Sandwich is now 2 miles inland and only Dover retains its major port status
 

The Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports is today an honorary but still prestigious position, formerly held by Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother - the present Lord Warden is Admiral Lord Boyce. The Official Residence of the Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports is based at Walmer Castle (left).
 

Former recent Lord Wardens include Sir Winston Churchill 1941-1965 and Sir Robert Menzies, former Prime Minister of Australia 1966-1978.


Notes on the Lunch Meeting at Glenmore House On Wednesday  March 21st 2012

The Chairman welcomed our Luncheon Speaker, Chief Superintendant Martin Greenslade (left). Martin addressed the Club on the state of policing in Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames both now and in the immediate future. He was basically very reassuring about the present situation. The challenge for the future lies in the basic task: overall crime reduction, set against a reduction in the police budget by amounting to some 16% to 20% in the 2013-2014 period. The present areas of emphasis include the 2012 Olympics, public order concerns and the overall issue of public confidence and satisfaction. Opportunities include centralisation of shared services - Response Teams, custody provision and the CID and in Safer Neighbourhood Teams.

Property theft is the second lowest in London although a particular recent anxiety has been a team of South Americans –two men and a woman – who operate down the A3, breaking in at the rear of property and then driving off.
 


 

But there has been a gratifying decrease in theft from motor vehicles and shops. Violence where it happens is very much in Kingston town centre. Nightclubs are a particular worry – the Oceana in particular has been in danger of closure. An interesting piece of lateral thinking has been the encouragement of the sale of refreshments – such as hot dogs – close to the exits of clubs to provide a distraction. And young people need reassurance: Street Pastors (see Footnote) and constables who can be talked to are positive and desirable factors.

The Olympics will need careful planning, particularly since prediction is difficult. Exhibitionists coupled with presence of the media will be a factor, as will be the men’s and women’s road races running through the Borough.  However, on the positive side there will be very substantial reinforcement from police elsewhere in the country. Also, the experience of last year’s riots in London has led to improved sources of communication and intelligence.

A closing reflection: peace is what it means to you. Foul neighbours and difficult children cause more general discomfort than aggressive gangsters.
 

There followed a vigorous question and answer session.

Laurie Chandler wished to know what has been the effect of the closure of Kingston Magistrates’ Court.

The brief (and to some of the audience, maybe surprising) answer to this was “very little”. A major anxiety had been transport for the various categories of people involved but this has been less of a problem than had been feared.

Another question related to Police Community Support Officers. Laurie Bower was curious to know what progress has been made with reducing paperwork. The answer to this was “some, but not enough”.

There were several more questions after which the Chairman thanked Martin Greenslade most warmly and the meeting closed with the Probus Toast at 3.10 p.m.

Brian Jackson

Footnote More about Street Pastors here at http://www.streetpastors.co.uk/

and for Kingston Street Pastors go to http://kingston.streetpastors.org.uk/

 


Notes on the Lunch Meeting at Glenmore House on Wednesday 18th April 2012

Geoff Adams on the Second World War in the Royal Navy

The Deputy Chairman greeted our Member Geoff Adams who was to give our after Lunch talk. After the Loyal Toast Geoff Adams commenced his talk on reminiscences of his service during the Second World War in the Royal Navy.

When the war broke out in 1939 Geoff was still a schoolboy but at the earliest opportunity volunteered for the Royal Navy and signed on at age 17. He found himself assigned to H.M.S. Gosling (H.M.S. Gosling located at Risley, H.M.S. Gosling was commissioned in 1942 the shore station was dedicated to the Fleet Air Arm and was a training base) as a trainee aircraft navigator and completed his training. As it happened his early experiences as a serviceman were against a background of infighting between what was originally the Royal Naval Air Service and the Royal Flying Corps from which the Fleet Air Arm gradually emerged. From the perspective of a rookie this led to bewilderment but there were very amusing incidents which Geoff recalled with wicked humour.

Frustrated by lack of opportunities to exercise his skills as a navigator but wishing to remain in the Navy a he took an engine fitter course. His knowledge of Pratt and Whitney engines (Since 1925, Pratt & Whitney has built more than a half-million piston and jet engines in 30 engine families. From early barnstormers to World War II fighters, from the first passenger planes to ground-breaking military jets, Pratt & Whitney engines (below) have powered hundreds of different aircraft from years past)


Pratt & Whitney Radial Engine

 
 

Pratt & Whitney Engine

This led to a variety of postings to locations where aircraft of various types using these engines where in service. This involved several trips to Gibraltar. Transferring to the Canadian navy he visited Winnipeg and was discharged in 1946.

This was a talk packed with incident, references to key aircraft in the War and above all warmth and humour which promised even more but was inevitably cut short by our time constraints.

The Deputy Chairman proposed the Probus Toast and closed the meeting at 3.15.

 

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